Posted by: kashkin | May 24, 2008

Hounslow Mosque- Charity Scandal

This article has been sent to national and local newspapers, organizations and individuals who should take notice of this growing problem and abuse of charity money in particular Hounslow Mosque and its culture of collecting funds; and its distribution for personal purposes with minimal accountability.

When community, individuals or groups contribute money towards a charity; it is done for a specific purpose with an understanding that people responsible for managing that charity will be honest, accountable and wise enough to put that money in causes where it matters for the good of the people and for benefits of the community.

But when it comes to Hounslow Mosque, in South West London, the case is rather different. For years, the people have collected money in the name of Allah, in the name of Mosque and in the name of community. For years there has been tin-pot collections at every occasions – be it Friday sermon, two Eids and any other opportunity to lure community into thinking that more they contribute, the more rewards they will get. But no one has ever provided an overview what happens when they have the money, where it goes, how is it spent and the element of responsibility.

People part with their money in the hope that it will be spent on Hounslow Mosque – maintenance, setting up of school for children, decent library, and also to make the mosque freehold. But none of this has happened, as week turn into months and months into years. Hounslow Mosque infrastructure is crumbling and no maintenance work it appears has ever been done. Secondly, the school and opening up of decent library is still far away from its materialization. And most importantly, Hounslow Mosque is still not free-hold after all these years of collecting funds. The money collected runs into millions and yet no sign and actual report where it has been spent.

So the important question arises, where is all this money going?

And the answer is quite simple. All these people whom we have elected to become governors, and trustees of the mosque. These people have and still are loitering away the money for their own individual purposes and it has become so blatant that they have invented trips back to Pakistan to distribute that money in the name of charity. Often I hear stories of someone buying cars, paying up their personal mortgages and the list carries on. In thousands they take, with the money which disappears into thin black hole of their personal and individual trips and fortunes.

The mosque funds and its management seem to have become the current nightmare for all the people who have contributed towards the good cause in the name of Allah and his prophet. They empty their pockets at all available opportunities as “tin pot” goes in front of them, but they do not get to see their money being spent towards good causes and towards their local mosques. Undeterred, the people responsible for management of these funds have become quite a threat and open handedly wasting the money or taking it for their own personal and baseless purposes. I hear of stories where people take large amounts of funds in the name of that it is going to be delivered to Pakistan to the needy; and yet when you find out how and where, all you get is an empty stares and silence.

This means that the community is becoming frustrated and bemused that if these people cannot even get this right, little hope lies in as and when they will undertake duties which are expected of them and for which they have elected themselves in for years and years of embezzlement and fraudulent behaviors…I personally think of it as a heinous crime; taking people’s money and wasting it upon themselves…there is no regulation and control….All we hear is convoluted stories about their trips, adventures and personal gratification.

Following needs to take place to get rid of this menace that exists:-

  • This fraudulent behavior has to be stopped by all these individuals responsible in any way or form to misuse these funds in the name of Allah, mosque or the community
  • People elected for these rules have to be scrutinized and monitored for all these activities and trips they make in the name of charity money and its distribution
  • Trustees and chairman of the Hounslow Mosque must produce a full audit of all the transaction that place with that money and provide an overview to the general members of the community
  • The charity money should be used for the maintenance of the Hounslow Mosque and its surrounding areas
  • School and library and making Hounslow Mosque free-hold should be the priority of each trustee and its chairman
  • No one should be allowed to take money. There has to be proper system and audit for each transaction that takes place.

I hope these suggestions are taken on board and published, as this is the only way of people finding out what these individuals do in the name of Allah and Islam to waste funds for their personal greed and agendas.

Kashkin


Responses

  1. thanks for your comments,

    whats the best way forward then, they all have elections in the mosque so i am assuming the people put these trustees in power

    do you go to hounslow?

    Fazal

  2. brother please stop ur rumours

  3. u jealous of muslim u jew

  4. I really hope this detail does go to newspapers. in fact, there should be a dispatches programme. not a question of disloyalty to muslims, the fact is we are not deserving of any loyalty when we start becoming imams and trustees for our personal gain, which seems to be the current state of affairs in many a mosque. The ONLY person in power at Hounslow mosque who seems genuine is Hafiz Ghaffar, the deputy imam. The rest of them should all be indicted for dishonesty and their lack of altruism and genuine concern for the house of Allah without regard for personal benefit and agenda.

  5. can I just add that Temoor, the young committee member is also upright and honest. The rest of them need banging out.

  6. ur right , they think the people are fools and were born yesterday, they run this like something back home, i hear that this is becoming a Goldmine for some people, but these people will be caught in the dispatch program

  7. Islam has now become a lucrative business, you want to make money, just join the mosquer and lead a few prayers, the trustees in hounslow are no where to be seen in the prayers, they only come on friday to collect money from the people and saturday and sunday zuhr time, apart from that they are running they business and rinsing the people out of money, these namazis are being screwed left right and centre, not knowing whats going on.

    They is still no audit going on in the mosque

    majority of the congregation are frustrated with imams not turning up for prayer, money being wasted, like paying a family member to build a 100,000 pound extension,

    this is the sign of the last days……

    they can get away now… but not from GOD..

    I hope they get the authorities involved or someone to check the goings in the mosque

  8. This is mosque is failing its duty to serve god and the public and we must arise to overthrow these people, they has been all sorts of trips being funded abroad in the name of charity… i hope people come to know all of this…

    and top of this our imam is no where to be seen, he is treating this like he runs the place

    Takes of days willy nilly…
    Employed his wife at the school who was earning in excess of 300 pounds a week as a teacher..when people found out he removed her..

    has own school on the weekends which he is running and making money on the side

    namzais at times have been woundering…,. what do we actually pay the imam for? i believe his wages are approx 25000

    Doesnt attend the fajr prayer and yet he is on a good wage, a very good wage, recently took 3 months holiday…………did the prophet ever say, its to far for me to lead the prayer i am busy?

    i would love to have his job,
    even the Gordon Brown cant take 3 months holiday, he will be sacked

    we have witnesses who can testify to some stories.. stories that will bring the house down…. but we are also mindful it will cause divisions amongst the groups……

    We have no issues what he gets up to in his spare time or what business he is running

    but his first duty should be to our mosque and thats the problem…….. he is no where to be ween, like the brother said earlier, Islam is business, the prophet suffered all his life and these people are eating like kings and stealing peoples money…..

  9. Salaam and guess what fellow concerned bloggers, the imam of the mosque seems to have seen this site and yesterday told the congregation after maghrib that the BBC has been following these complaints and has OK’d the workings of the mosuqe. Is this true? Did the BBC come around and OK financial matters at the masjid?

  10. The other BIG problem here is that those who are truly secterian like the imams themselves make out that they are the ones pursuing unity in the ummah. Nonsense. Yesterday, and please correct me if I am wrong, an Egyptian scholar at the masjid gave a talk and sent salutations on the Prophet SAW. I did not hear him say ‘ya rasulallah’ (I would have no problem if he did) but apparently the imam did … and so asked him to answer those who question the imam when he says ya rasulallah. The Egyptial scholar went silent for about 15 seconds (probably thinking ‘I don’t remember saying that, Prof’) and then gave a short answer saying that there is no difference between being in Madinah and being here. The imam, in his usual sweet but polemic way commented on how others are sectarian in raising such questions and ‘we are ahlus sunnah wal jama’ah’. What need was there for this? The reality is he wants to make this the minhaj ul Qur’an centre for West London. It’s well-known. WHY DOES EVERYONE APART FROM ONLY 2 OR 3 PEOPLE HAVE THEIR OWN AGENDA RATHER THAN JUST SERVING ALLAH’S DEEN???

  11. Salams
    To all of you my friends, inshallah Hounslow Mosque and its working will have to change, too long it has been the plunder and indifference. This needs to be highlighted to all whom have given money in the name of God, which these people have abused for their own personal greed and agendas.

  12. By the way, I think these blogs are having something of an effect, the imam stayed for Isha yesterday … not something he usually does in the summer months. Maybe he has had an increase in that £25,000 pay packet.

  13. we cant change this without doing something practical , we just talk too much but there is no action…. lets call a serious meeting in front of the HALL and end this saga and we will get indpendant people running the masjid

  14. I think there should be a bunch of young people who have no vested interested in doing things a certain way at the mosque. They would therefore be open to suggestions and act with sincerety. None of this ‘let’s make this a minhaj-ul-qur’an centre’ or ‘this should be the Arab base for west London’ or ‘Hounslow jamia Army barracks’, or ‘hizb ut tahrir (uni students in jeans) pamphleteers’ stall – can’t do istinjaa but let’s get the khilafah going’.

  15. did you know my brothers and sisters that an Audit was carried out by the MCB for all charities involved and listed “Poor Accounting
    practices”

    surprise surprise, hounslow mosque in on the list never having any accounts upto date

    http://www.angelfire.com/blog2/mcbwatch2/mcbcharities.pdf

  16. as bad as it may sound the IMAMS wife was also minting it from the mosque as a teacher i hear from sources in the masjid, naughty naughty i say

  17. my brothers, soleyman is using islam as money making machine, he has provate school he set you can view http://www.sulaymaniamuslimschool.co.uk/

    and where did all these qualifications come from… this is a lie my brothers, we have not seen certificates of him

    The Sulaymania Muslim School – Woking (SMS) was inaugurated by Shaykh Professor Nisar Ahmed Sulaymani who has studied Shariah under the guidance of his own father Shaykh Mufti Muhammad Hussain Sulaymani and then under the guidance of numerous scholars from Makkah-tul-Mukarramh; Al- Madina Al Munnawarah; Syria; Iraq; Sudan; Egypt; India; Pakistan; West Indies and China. Shaykh Sulaymani has strong Isnaad of Hadith from Shaykh Muhammad Alvi Al Maliki of Makkah. Shaykh Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri (who taught him Hadith in As –Suffa near Raudha Al- Mubarakah in the Prophetic Masjid. He has Isnaad from his Shaykh Fadlur Rahman Al- Ansari (ra) and Shaykh Abdul Haleem Siddiqi. Shaykh Sulaymani started the teaching of the Quran with Tajweed at the age of 13 and led junmah prayers at the age of 16 under the guidance of his father Shaykh-ul-Hadith Mufti Muhammad Hussain. He has served as Imam and director of the Islamic Centre in Copenhagen Denmark as well as the Shah Jahan Mosque in Woking. He has also taught Islamic studies as a sessional lecturer for Birbeck College University of London. He has completed a post- graduate diploma in Education from Kingston University (London). He is currently serving as an Imam and Director of Education at Hounslow Jamia Mosque and Islamic Centre – West London since 2000. Shaykh Sulaymani has delivered numerous lectures around the globe from Africa, the Middle East, South Asia and Australia. Numerous TV channels have aired his lectures and he has contributed in many live talk shows.

  18. It’s important we are fair with the facts. Imam Sulemani has studied with many of the people mentioned, although certainly his nuanced polemic manner does not smack of scholasticism. Its great to hear he studied under Shaykh Alawi Al Maliki Al Makki, the great allamah of Makkah. He was a man of great adab and love. Insha-Allah imam Sulaimani will also develop those qualities, with an icing of sincerity so we can all benefit from his knowledge. In the meantime, he’d make an outstanding financial advisor. Does that website say he’s been teaching tajweed?

  19. And he did get an ijaza from Shaykh Yaqoubi. Let’s be fair, he has received knowledge.

  20. we will figt for this mosque soleymani knows that he is using this mosque as a business, just to let puplic know that in the AGM meeting, he asked for funding from the mosque to go to his own charity, and the general secretary knows of this as well, why is thus? his is using charity as an excuse to fund his money

    this is the sign of qiyamah my god help us to defeat this

  21. This blog seems to be gathering some fame and is being mntioned on the Friday prayers by the imam.

  22. Why can’t everyone just make up for the sake of the community? We have such a lovely masjid, Masha Allah and it is such a shame if we can’t stop bickering. We need to realise that no-one is perfect but we get along for the sake of Allah. May Allah guide us all and make us a source of guidance for others. Ameen

    Soheil

  23. After yesterdays fiasco little wounder the muslims are disunited, we cant even sort ourselves out an imam to lead the prayer, and when we have genuine people trying to lead the prayer and help out they are getting “dist” by some so called muslims claiming they tajweed is wrong and they are making mistakes, instead of the brother taking him to one side to advise, he publicly humiliated him, i mean what was that about last night???, poor Hadi got it yesterday badly, this just shows, if our mosques affairs are a mess, how do you think the outside world percieve us?, and as usual no trustee was in sight to sort things out, they were busy filling……. up…. :) if you know what i mean……………………………………

  24. Dear Brothers,

    Asalaamwalaikam.

    It is a real pity to hear of the problems in Hounslow mosque. Unfortunately, the situation you finds yourselves in is reflective of the Umah as a whole. In many ways this situation has been forseen by RasullAllah (PBUH) and is evident in many Sahih Hadith.

    In my humble opinion, we need to move forward and address how to rectify this problem. The only way forward is to follow the authentic and proven Sunnah:

    1) First and foremost, we should fear Allah SWT and ensure that we do not fall in the category of Manafiks (by receiving money / items from people and not using or returning them in the intended or agreed way)
    2) We should return to the basics (and often the most important aspects of the Sunnah) and stop backbiting, stop suspicion (as some suspicion is sinful), hide our brothers’ sins (so on the Day of Judgement, Alla SWT will hide our sins) and look at our own mistakes before pointing the finger at others.
    3) Remember that our leaders are the refelction of the people
    4) Remember that if we made intention that a particular amount of money was for charity, Allah SWT will reward us acordingly (whether or not the money was sent to the intended recipient or not).
    5) Remember our manners when dealing with our brothers and dealing with situations like this.

    Generally speaking, the first prioirty should be the local community, unless stated otherwise (i.e unless a collection is marked for a specific event or calamity, money should be used for the local community and mosque first and foremost). Bearing this in mind, a collection should be made visible to all people and amounts should be posted in a public area. Any spending should be approved by several people (Shurah) and where posible, reciepts should be obtained. If this is not possible, then tangible progress should be shown (such as the physical building of a library or the purchase of books e,t,c,). we also need to bear in mind that those undertaking charity work are entitled to a percentage of the collection.

    I guess what I am trying to say is that these problems (if Allah SWT wills) can be resolved by undertaking basic steps from the Quran & Sunnah – Insh’Allah

  25. Prophet Muhammad (s) prophesied of the Last Age that:

    “People would follow a way of life other than mine and give guidance other than mine”, “I fear for my people only the leaders who lead men astray”, “Before the Last Hour there will be great liars, so beware of them”, “When the most wicked member of a tribe becomes its ruler, and the most worthless member of a community becomes its leader, and a man is respected through fear of the evil he may do, and leadership is given to people who are unworthy of it, expect the Last Hour”, – all of these warnings have already been dramatically and ominously fulfilled in the world, as well as in the community of Muslims

  26. Last night’s debacle was truly regrettable. As if we haven’t got enough isues going on at the mosque, only for outsiders to come and publicly start humiliating someone leading the congregation. Deplorable behaviour, notwithstanding which, A.Hadi still hugged the tajwid expert. Any Pakistani would have gone doolally. When are we Muslims going to learn some adab? And where was the Brigadier trustee? or for that matter any of the others? Sorry, ma bad, those people don’t usualy do weekends do they?

  27. brigadeer was out on his mission, he was on patrol outside hounslow barracks watching out for any russian invasion into hounslow, he aint going to come and watch a bunch of fools argiung, brigadeer has big fish to fry man

  28. ATTENTION! left right, left right. straight march. I think they should impose army-style punishments for trustees who misbehave and show limited interest in the real affairs of the mosque .

  29. what a shame that hamara masjid is being viliified this way, these bloggs are turning into a joke now and the serious issue of money going missing is now of the agenda,

    i wounder if these people who are putting these comments are serious about our mosque or just want to keep the stirring the sauce…… want watching everybody laugh at us

  30. The more i think about this the more the profs hand has been working secretly in the mosque behind the scenes, think about it, its all agendas here.

    The second imam becomes ill 3 weeks before ramadan (abdul ghafir) who works God knows how many hours…is admitted to hospital, the mosque is in turmoil because the other night no one WAS there to lead the prayer…… what happens,,,,, superrman comes to the rescue, the prof waves his majic stick and in comes Mr Karim sultan, (nothing personal against karim) who happens to be in the area and starts to lead the prayer (who is also the profs preferred choice to lead ramadan prayers :) and then its announced karim is leading the tarawee prayer…..mmm sounds a bit fishy to me…

    i think this is really what happened and called me conspiracy theorist,,,,, abdul ghafir was told by the prof listen you go away for a weeks saying your ill and go to hospital i’ll draft in the main guy for ramadan….. this guy is the prefeered choice to lead the tarawee prayer.. who was this consulted with, why are we getting favouristm in the mosque, who agreed to this?? i thought we had impartial trustees in the mosque….

    i think the people of hounslow mosque deserve the prof…………

    the more i think the more the feeling is that Karim was coming to lead the prayer right from the beggining……. the prof was just trying to make it lookl impartial

  31. Well Barracks, let me just say this, I appreciate you have your views and conspiracy theories about what’s going on, but I believe Hafiz Ghafar may actually be genuinely ill. Secondly, I know him to be upright and to say that he is in on it with Sulemani does not do him justice.

    The Prof, on the other hand, has as always taken advantage of the situation and promoting certain people (although the people in themselves are fine – they’re just being used, becharey, they’ll soon find out just like anyone who dances with the Prof does).

    Someone was saying that an Egyptian is coming to lead the taraweeh prayer, now watch what happens. Brother Sultan will be promoted to the point that he begins to feel he can actually touch that chandelier and of course we’ll have qawwali style mehfils every Ramadan night in which local spectators will make cash gifts to the reciter of nasheeds.

    By the way, Tahir ul Qadri can be seen on you tube presenting money to qawwals in a similar manner to that used with courtesans in Mughal India. Maybe the fact that he had written the lyrics had a bearing.

    The reason I say that is because although he has a long list of so called teachers, the Prof’s TRUE spiritual guide and mentor is Tahir ul Qadri. Just watch those programmes on QTV. He’s always in the audience somewhere. I reckon that 3 month holiday was spent in the same cause. Of course money making will have been part of it to. After all, we all have mortgages to pay … or is the Prof’s house cashed out??? So the point is, Prof justifies everything, he says giving money at such gatherings is the giving of gifts …

    And guess what, what we have on the other side is those people who come and pray at the masjid and then spend time moaning outside about the amount of na’ats. And then they start writing letters asking for evidence.

    If you don’t like it and wasnt to voice criticisms, please go and pray elsewhere, but don’t spread trouble.

    Anyway, with this website, which he of course checks regularly, the Prof has enough on his hands …

    Prof ….. you’ve been tangoed!!!

  32. Karim will be feeling like he can touch the Dome of the mosque never mind the chandelier, his going to think hes the ultimate DON, but little does he know about the abusing that goes on in the mosque, hes just being used by the PROF as a PAWN to promote the PROFs version of islam, which is TEEEE TEEEE TEEE (music tunes)

    And you mentioned that some egyption is coming, listen, he wont get a chance matey, remember that the prof controls and dictaes all, there is no such this as a comittee or trustee, the PROF IS KING of all these brigadeers, he is as they say “untouchable”

  33. ps…. lets hope hes got a set of lungs…. he’ll need them to whack out those tunes every night……………………..

  34. repect to the masjid please

  35. repect to the mosque please

  36. Friends,
    I am allowing all comments in on Hounslow Mosque charity scandal. Although I have introduced ” moderation” feature which applies to all comments not just these ones. The reason for this is to allow some measure and control..I was seeing lots of spam comments coming in…Therefore it was for that reason.

    I hope this explains.

    Waslams

  37. my brothers, soleyman is now hardly in the mosque, what is this? who is leading jamaat?

    he is sucking the mosque out of the money and we are all suffering, recently they have been problems at the sufa school beacuse of interfernece with imam,

  38. he had affair with a dentish from denmark, did you know this, ask anyone from his home town in woking, this is where i live and we have enough stories about him, we are happy that he is out of woking…..and gone to hounslow….


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