Response to Comments on Pak Tea House on Thomas Friedman’s Article


We felt the sorrow for Mumbai attacks in the same manner as we feel for what happens in Pakistan but this does not mean we feel apologetic and come out on the streets to protest considering when full facts of this event haven’t even been made public other than random incidences on the media and pointing fingers at people and institutions. If they are involved, then surely they need to be punished, whether the people involved are from Pakistan or from India. It’s not that we do not protest. The whole nation protested over judiciary issue, we protested over what happened in Iraq and in Lebanon.

Also the point I wanted to make was that we need to understand the root causes of this phenomena as well. It’s no good jumping on the bandwagon and start raising slogans and blame game. Pakistan, like any other country has its fair share of issues and concerns, be it political or social. There is a never day that goes past when Pakistan is not in the news. Same goes for India as well. India has taken great pride in promoting this sense of democracy and the rest and yet when it comes to seeing those democratic principles and its application towards Pakistan, they seem to conveniently ignore and forget.

Never have I remembered an incidence where India has actively made an effort to resolve any of the issues that have been taken to UN, water, trade and the list goes on. Why it is Pakistan always have to make amends and appear apologetic just because we have problems internal and external some by our own makings and some by the world for their own gains and interests.
The other thing that comes to mind that it’s not Pakistan harping on issues of India but India itself which has wasted no time and effort to promote this sense of indifference and blame game  to the wider community. We need a peaceful region and for that there has to be an active responsibility on both partners. It’s not difficult a concept which cannot be comprehended or understood.

As far as someone pointed out that its Pakistan who created Talibanisation and whole host of terror outfits in Pakistan, then I am afraid you really have to dig deep to realize America played a very active role in creation of these elements  which everyone tags it as if Pakistan were solely responsible. It’s the same western writers and columnists that wrote profusely, effortlessly to praise those people as Mujahedeen’s fighting their war to defeat the Red Armies of Soviet Union and its break up. As we all know what happens when there is a war; what followed from that war was a simple, psychological reaction. . Pakistan took million of refugees as a result of this war with Soviet Union. This ISI and all that follows take its mark from those days my friends.

To fight terrorism, fight the inherent beliefs and conspiracies theories which need to be eradicated. This belief that exists in India and the whole world, that Pakistan needs to be Balkanized otherwise this world will not be a safe place. What an absurd idea to make and propagate? Pakistan is not trying to Balkanize India or breaks it into little provinces? So why this need on India’s part whether the media, policy makers in alliance with neocons and the rest to have this view. Wow, what a way to apply charter of democracy and all its obligations by creating instability in these regions and then blaming everything on Pakistan. Why have never said that Hinduism and Christianity have its roots in terrorism. So why label Islam and terrorism as one. This is where the problem begins.

And to all those people engaged in supporting Friedman stating he is not hawkish and the rest. Well the simple answer to that is, read his article again and many of what he has written before. The underlying meaning in his articles and columns are derogatory and without much substance. Freedom of speech and action doesn’t necessarily mean that you remove yourself from the responsibility of knowing what is right and wrong. Words need to be utilized effectively and for benefit of humanity not to take sides and generate this false sense of euphoria that all we do in Pakistan is wrong.

In the end, people who lost their lives in Mumbai were same like me and you if you remove the fabric of religion and countries. The innocent blood was spilled as it has been spilled in Kashmir, as in Lebanon, as in Congo and the rest of the African nations for different ideologies and its purpose, as the blood has been spilled in Palestine, Chechnya, in all those places. Innocent people lost their lives belonged to all religions. I felt the same pain and anguish as I felt when people in Marriot and all the other places in Pakistan lost their lives. It was not their fault. The fault lies with us as individuals, as society and as states where we fail to appreciate the underlying problems that have existed in our society. It’s that we need to understand that it’s that deep and hidden human psychological profile that undergoes a strange transformation when the very justice and humanity they deserve is taken away from them. It’s not the religion and it’s definitely not ISLAM that creates this but it’s the politics we engage and in the manner we engage. It’s those things we lose when we follow blindly others in the name of interest and democracy and all which becomes apparent when those events have taken place. The root of the problem and its cause you may want to argue lie in Pakistan but if you think it clearly it resides in the corridors of Capitol Hill in Washington.

Kashkin

Response to Thomas L Friedman’s Article “Calling All Pakistanis”


http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/03/opinion/03friedman.html

Dear New York Times Editors

Response to Mr Friedman’s article ” Calling All Pakistanis”..He wanted ordinary citizens of Pakistan to protest. Well here is the protest in words, from an ordinary Pakistani which is more effective rather than being on the streets. Mr Friedman must realise that his statements cannot be tolerated as they do not represent the overall picture and the correct one. If he has any shortage of ideas, I can understand that but not through boredom this article which is meaningless and fails to take into account anything with consideration and care. I hope you pass this message onto him and appropriate action taken.

There comes a time when all one can do is to report and write based on their own perceptions – remote and alienated in their own ways to see what is actually happening outside US. Thomas Freidman seems to have picked another example where he is mixing too many things without due consideration and care. Another example how to spread a message in the most negative sense.What has he achieved from this and what was the impact? At times, this whole concept of sitting thousands of miles away, in a most comfortable surroundings do not necessarily mean that you know what is actually happening in the world which has become unstable not because of religion but the politics and policies of the West in order to pursue fanatically the interests and gains for safeguarding their concepts of democracy. This is what Pakistan and ordinary citizen of Pakistan will be protesting about. Why should we protest as we did not kill anyone in Mumbai.
This is what happens when there is no clarity and appropriate judgment. Mumbai attack has been condemned by all Muslims and no one is happy but how can one expect to condemn something when the other side has condemned Pakistan in their false accusations as an easy way out. India has falsely accused Pakistan in many instances before only to find out later, it was their own people and own problems. The problems which India currently faces are huge and uncontrollable. If this is an attempt to create a standoff between India and Pakistan, then I am afraid it’s not going to happen as India knows it very clearly and what that means for all its economic progress and future. The solution is to accept and share and have the concept of respect and trust. Mr. Friedman, I am sorry to say India never has accepted Pakistan as a mutual friend or agreed to any of the proposals that have been brought out in the past to transition into an understanding based on justice and tolerance. And this propaganda of doing the protest for Mumbai is not alone Pakistan’s responsibility. There should have been protest in the streets of West when Pakistan’s airspace was violated on numerous occasions, when people in FATA and our tribal areas were murdered in the name of terrorism and when there were bomb blasts in Lahore, Islamabad, Karachi and all the other cities. Why have this indifference? The people who have lost their lives were innocent and civilians and it doesn’t matter which religion, creed or sect they belong to, it should be condemned. But to highlight this fact of protest illustrates the thinking behind Mr. Friedman’s approach that if Pakistanis don’t come out on the street, then that means they are responsible for Mumbai attacks. This is where the problem begins in his analysis.
Secondly, how can Mr. Friedman justify his very own Government stance on this so called war on terrorism which has become war of terror.The US policies and the people like him were responsible for creating that sense of fear in the world to completely decimate Iraq first and now Afghanistan and Pakistan. How can he justify these actions on any grounds be it moral or ethical that it is okay to wage wars on developing nations and third world countries because they pose a threat to USA or any other on the principle of religion and fear.
Also USA has never really supported the lawyer’s movement in Pakistan. A perfect opportunity to bring some sense and justice but instead they have carried on with their policies of the past to support dictators or those who under the disguise of democracy carry out the most villainous acts and disservice to their people to support America’s claim and these wars of interest.
He is asking the question to all Muslims and yet the title of the article is “Calling All Pakistanis”. This type of immaturity is prevalent in the western media. After every incidence, there come stero-typed, clichéd responses which we have become accustomed to.
He starts off by saying that all those protest that took place in Pakistan all over was over a cartoon, a meaningless exercise. It may appear to Mr. Friedman meaningless and futile but there was a clear message and again an element of ignorance played by Danish cartoonist and the rest for portraying Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) in a manner which was derogatory and not acceptable. The very first paragraph highlights his ignorance disguised as wisdom.  How can a person like Mr. Friedman be accepted as a leading commentator on issues of Islam and the rest where he doesn’t have any remote idea what it means to Muslims and the whole Islamic world “the Danish cartoon affair”.
Let me ask the question to Mr. Friedman as I do not remember any single protest or voices of reason and logic from India about Pakistan and its loss in all those bomb attacks and suicide plots in last two years that has taken thousands of ordinary Pakistani lives. Did he protest in Times Square? Did he ever protest about anything? The answer is NO. But he has the wisdom to share his convoluted views to the rest of the world by being irrational and irresponsible behavior.
Then he goes onto describe a hypothetical example if Indians were to crash into Karachi and kill those people. This is one of the most absurd and shocking statements I have seen from Mr. Friedman. How can he propose such solution in the wake of what has already happened. Basically he is following the same rhetoric without any evidence and without any facts to reinstate this view that the people in Mumbai attacks were Pakistanis. And then to bring out an example inciting Indians to follow the same only tells one thing, the idea to propagate to create a situation between India and Pakistan where the only beneficiary of this exercise will not be Pakistan or India but USA. Lets destabilize another region; lets create another war; let’s start up another campaign is the message I see disguised within his statements.
India as I stated earlier on has huge problems. So far, all the world has ever known is Bollywood and IT. Now with this incidence, it has exposed India’s inability to control its own borders, inability not to act upon intelligence when they knew and most importantly to ignore all what has happened in India and all the unrest that exists in all those minorities and quarters within the society. What happened in Gujrat couple of years ago was a shameful act. Did India do anything? The answer is No. What happened to Christians who were burnt by Hindu fanatics? Was there any response and protest within India? The answer is NO.
Pakistani Government may be weak thanks to all those wars we have been fighting on USA’s behalf but its people are not weak and stupid. They can see Mr. Friedman where you are   coming from and all the hidden and sinister views you   nurture, you adopt and propagate through your articles.
He is keen to have whole Pakistan brought out in the streets to grieve for the loss which ordinary citizens of Mumbai had to go through. I condemn those attacks and all Pakistanis have condemned those attacks but by protest…Let me ask the question to Mr. Freidman. Did the protest in New York, Washington and most importantly in the streets of London against attacks on Iraq and Afghanistan had any impact on Bush and its policies towards those regions. The answer is No. It was the biggest protest in London that took place and people came from all walks of life, from all quarters. And yet their views and protest were ignored and forgotten by the governments and elite. Did he participate in any of those protests or was he writing another inflammatory article on Pakistan, its inhabitants and all the issues.
And in the rest of the article he carries on again playing at the edges with stereotyped and misjudgments about Pakistan and Muslims, the notions of hell and heaven and trying to incite the people from this belief that whatever comes out from West is necessarily the best thing to adopt and accepted.
Mr. Friedman needs to realize and accept one very important aspect on this whole thing. The evil of terrorism is not the religion (be it Islam, Christianity, Hinduism, and so forth) but the politics.Politics when it completely ignores the basic principles of humanity, their needs and expectations. Politics when it fails to appreciate the problems and all the issues that surrounds nations be it Pakistan, India or anyone for that matter. The hidden beast which the Politics have carried within the policies of the West and its propagators to resolve the problems of the world by force rather than dialogue, through oppression rather than understanding; through acceptance rather than alienation; and through concepts appealing rather than advocating we are right and you are wrong. Pakistan has seen enough of this in its last sixty one years of existence and how all what has happened for all the wrong reasons brought a nation into turmoil..It is this he needs to understand v- the core issue and its impact and protest about it rather than being the mouthpiece for another ideology, for another half-baked solution and for another article to illustrate his ignorance and behavior which creates confusion and breeds hatred.
Rumi once said that wisdom is something that does not rely upon the condition of being old. You either have it or you don’t. Mr. Friedman today has exposed himself that he is definitely not one of them who can be called a wise person within all premises of wisdom. The voices of reason within him are absent.

Kashkin

Thanks


Many thanks to Aadil, Ayesha, Nadeen, Murtaza, Nayni, Drfrucci for all your beautiful comments on all these different posts..

At times I may not be able to respond to all your comments but I have always respected your views and appreciation for new ideas which exists amongst all of us, around us, near and far..

Just been very busy at work. Also been working very rigorously with Imran Khan’s PTI in UK to galvanize some support and to change the mindset….Not an easy thing to convince all but the good news is lot of people are coming on board…

All that can be done through words, actions, mind, heart and soul I have opened myself up…I have completely forgotten the concept of time, still at my desk writing away on different issues and formalisation of political process and its thought into an organisation which lacks all the vital components of modernity, structure, and most importantly the programme how to turn a simple perception and need of of a common person into something meaningful, and practical…

Again once again, many thanks…

kashkin

Reply to Amir Mehsud comments on “Waziristan”


My dear friend Amir Mehsud,

Nope I am not gone crazy yet as per your comment. Fully intact and amused to see your reply as you have turned a very humanistic poem into something of an agenda to launch your abuse..fair enough. we all are entitled to our opinions and you equally can demonstrate that power of emotion and logic.

“british created crap called Pakistan”..well there is nothing more I can add to this. You hold onto this belief and all i know that I lost 30 members of my family for this country to come into existence and still to this day I think it was the right decison my ancestors made and all the sacrifice they had to make and hardships to endure.It is easier to be critical but one has to be appreciative as well for what a country may have done us all. At times we feel that it hasnt but we only have to open our eyes…politicians, army and all the triablism and feudalism may have been bad, but people are not bad.  Secondly, I have spent most of my life in those mountains and have known the people and their traditions as well..so that place belong to us all my friend.

This is not a pakistani propaganda poem as it covers the very core human element where oppression and pain settles in. This place is of mine as well in the same way as it is yours. I can describe here all the historical facts and figures but the idea is not to create a mockery of our beliefs and understandings. Either you like or not. and I respect this.

I have always been against those have abused power and responsibility. It goes to all whether punjabi or pashtuns or afhgans, or sindhi and balochs.It is  always the minority element within each faction my friend and i represent none of them.

The poem was to highlight the beauty of that place, its people and their character..highlighting no matter what happens that lands and its people dont give up…not just against the oppression but also the terrain they live with and cope.That can hardly be described as pakistani propaganda poem…In anger and hate one cannot achieve anything, only with reflection and wisdom….and for that, it will take time and sacrfice..healing takes time and I am sure you will heal as well.

So my friend,go in peace….. I respect your comments and sentiment…well lets pray that all those involved in corruption and embezzlement are brought  to justice either in this life or next be it pubjabi, afghans, pushtuns, you or me…I am all up for it to face the consquences of my actions and I hope next time you be more effective in relaying your opinion across.

and thanks for your comments “get a life”.It so very kind of you. Exchanging insults and indecencies is not what I do..I can do it, but then there is a difference..I forget my own pain and abuse and always remember to see it from where it is coming from…being hurt is one thing and controlling the anger is another.

It is amazing that you hate Pakistan with such vigour and passion and yet you  decided to comment upon my poem on pakteahouse. The very existence of Pakistan you hate is still binded to us all as child is in the womb to its mother. Let that anger wither and think as we all are the reflections of the same place…It is up to us how we take this country forward towards progression and peace.

Regards

kashkin

Reply to Dr Raza Haider


Dr Saab,
Gul Raiz saab is referring to Zardari as Schizophrenic as a manifestation of his political behaviour and it is more than enough for someone to have an opinion as Gul Razi did and by the way as you suggest judiciary is not a minor issue, it may appear to you or Zardari in your perceptions but in reality it is different…The whole nation is sick and tired of all these issues..To Zardari and many others the issues of electricity, water shortages and all the rest may appear minor, but not to us who are the citizens of Pakistan. I am sorry but this is the blunt reality. If politicians cannot assess these risks, cannot generate momentum in their thoughts and implementation of these ideas, then i am afraid they should not be in this business….we can hide behind all the beautiful disguises created by words and its metaphors, but try telling these to millions of Pakistanis every time they raise themselves and hopes that their politicians will do something, they get a kick back in their teeth…If these people including Zardari cannot deal with these things, then we dont need them,…simple as that….

kashkin